Is it justifiable to blow civilians up if they are against?

777

Loans to Libyan citizens are given with NO interest.
Students would get paid the average salary for the profession they are studying for.
If you are unable to get employment the state would pay the full salary as if you were employed until you find employment.
When you get married the couple gets an apartment or house for free from the Government.
You could go to college anywhere in the world. The state pays 2,500 euros plus accommodation and car allowance.
The cars are sold at factory cost.
Libya does not owe money, (not a cent) to anyone. No creditors.
Free education and health care for all citizens.
25% of the population with a university degree.
No beggars on the streets and nobody is homeless (until the recent bombing).
Bread costs only $0.15 per loaf

Seriously if you are against these free government benefits you deserve to have your ass killed off by the government. Why does the west justify the actions of these anarchist rebels?
Why does Obama get a Nobel Peace prize for supporting rebels and bombing a country that provides aid to thier citizens? Not to mention even in America our benefits will never compare to Libya's.
Desert Fox - Can you explain to me how free aid is "oppressive"?
You are a lame excuse for a "American" why should I move to another country? I love what this country stands for thats why I openly point out the truth and corruption and everything that was not American you really think our founding fathers found this country on the premise of destroy a country with superior benefits for its citizens? If anything you should get the hell out of this country because you blindly support bs that our country was not founded on.
Btw the highest tax bracket in Libya is only at 15% most of their countries benfits are paid for from thier oil income so can you please explain your bs conservative view of a foriegn country? How is a country opressive if they allow you to go to school and get a education ANY WHERE AROUND THE WORLD? SHEEp.

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You are right, those who talk thrash about libya/gaddafi can't even find libya on map or tell the full name of Gaddafi.

Libya has no debt, and west owes over 200 billion to libya for the oil which they have already delivered. Gaddafi wasn't a dictator, he hold no political position forget about holding the highest one for the country, he was a revolutionary, freedom fighter, guide for the country.
Libya was officially direct democratic country, there you can raise your opinions/views in official assemblies, something that US can never ever touch when it comes to democracy..:-

http://gagnauga.is/index.php?Fl=Greinar&ID=169
http://thesantosrepublic.com/2011/10/purging-psyops-usa-murdered-gaddafi-and-the-legacy-of-libyas-great-leader/

Muammar Gaddafi was loved by his people and by whole world actually, don't mind the idiots who lies about him, fact is that he never committed any crime, each and every allegation which they had put have no proof or evidence, Admitted by US Pentagon, Amnesty International, Russian Intelligence, Libyan themselves, then why people still falsely believes that on the gossips?? Which are dead and outdated.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/amnesty-questions-claim-that-gaddafi-ordered-rape-as-weapon-of-war-2302037.html
http://rt.com/news/airstrikes-libya-russian-military/
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1110/S00144/un-silent-despite-no-basis-for-natos-illegal-war-on-libya.htm

Fact is that West had send Al-qaeda/wahhabis terrorists for killing people in Libya, when those terrorists were defeated/captured, the west illegally sent there forces with other 30+ countries and also forced other arab countries(Qatar, Jordan, UAE, etc) to send there forces too.

Why people say that there was protests against Gaddafi??? When it was just a fake revolution created by west in hollywood sets???? See:-

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zxlixI6jJEs
-------/watch?v=yHrwZK7jFZo
-------/watch?v=_KMJCNh5ZwM (fake victories)
-------/watch?v=lrYexlOFRC8
------/watch?v=vViUQnxfbJA (they shown india's protests as libya's)


They overthrow/killed Gaddafi for stealing the countries wealth(where's libya's billion now??), for resources(oil, agriculture, etc), for stealing gold(U.S. has no gold in there federal banks), and more reasons.
Nothing has been re-constructed in libya for over year now, because west and the acting puppet government only care about stealing and killing people. Now if you think that what are al-qaeda terrorists doing there? Well they are just killing anyone who is non retarded islamist and demolishing graves of all christians, jews.:-

http://www.maghrebchristians.com/2012/03/03/islamists-in-libya-destroy-graves-of-christians-and-jews/

Although Gaddafi's death is regarded to be fake by many and why not? No DNA/postmortem and secret burial... we all know how fake it is. National media of Libya, The former US department official Steve Pieczenik called the death fake too, it was done just for lowering the support of Gaddafi.. The actors who acted in that video were never seen before or after the video, it was shoot 1 day before it's release and that time it was raining in the city..
In real the Gaddafi's loyalists still control most of the country, once they get the whole capital city back, they are back, they have re-taken a few areas as well so that country can be free from terrorists.. Sources:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yCYamrMzo
http://coupmedia.org/middle-east-unrest/libyan-media-say-muammar-gaddafi-is-still-alive-2010
http://libyasos.blogspot.in/2011/10/muammar-al-gaddafi-is-alive.html

Are democrats proving themselves to be unthinking drones when they ignore facts like this?

holeymoley

Common sense tells everyone but liberals and democrats that ALL human predators dearly hope their targets are unarmed, whether the predator is a home invader, Stalin or Hitler:
-Thomas Jefferson, "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776: ââLaws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Even pacifists like Mahatma Gandhi "got it," saying: "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." An Autobiography, pg 446.

But liberals and democrats always religiously cling to their dogmatic faith that âmore guns leads to more crimeâ no matter how much evidence you shove in their face, including:

-9/27/01 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/156671⦠are deeply rooted within Swiss culture but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept"; âIn addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons.â

-1/15/03 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/26568⦠BBC: "âIf guns are outlawed only outlaws will have gunsâ" may prove prophetic. Gun crime in the UK is soaring even though it has the strictest gun control laws of any democracy.â
Nine years later: 12/17/12 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-⦠UKâs violent crime rate per 100,000 people is 2,034; USâs is 466.

-2/2/11 Daily Telegraph, about piracy: âThe safest ships of all [sailing in the Gulf of Aden] are flying the Russian flag: armed guards aboard them simply blow pirate boats out of the water and leave any survivors to drown. Attacks on Russian vessels have abruptly ceased.â

-7/25/12 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-⦠1950 all but one mass-murders in the U. S. where more than three people died were committed in gun-free zones. The Gun-Free Schools Zone Act was passed in 1990.

-9/25/12 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-â¦
âBut almost 30 years after the law [which mandates that all households own at least one firearm for self-protection] was passed, it is still in place and still popular, not least because Kennesawâs crime rate has remained disproportionately low, even as the townâs population swelled from 5,000 in 1982 to almost 35,000 now. According to the latest FBI statistics, Kennesaw recorded 31 violent crimes â mainly robberies and aggravated assaults â during 2008. In other similar-sized local towns the figures were much higher â 127 in Dalton and 188 in Hinesville. For property crimes â largely burglaries and thefts â Kennesaw recorded 555 while Dalton had 1,124 and Hinesville 1,802.â

-11/23/12 http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/⦠2006-2011 gun purchases in Virginia increased 73%. During the same period gun-related crimes fell 24%.

-1/6/13 http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/20â¦According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, the firearm crime rate dropped from 6 victims per 1,000 residents in 1994 to 1.4 victims per 1,000 residents in 2009. This has occurred as more and more citizens have armed themselves under right-to-carry State laws. While major crimes show continuing decline in those States, this phenomenon parallels a major crime rise in heavily gun-controlled cities.

-In 1950 there were 40 million cars in the USA. In 2009 there were 260 million, over six times more. And yet car deaths are the lowest since 1950: 9/9/10 http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/09/autos/nhtsa_traffic_deaths/index.htm: NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Traffic deaths have hit their lowest level since 1950, the year fatalities behind the wheel began to be tracked, according to the latest government statistics.

The reason for the decline is obvious to all sentient Americans: laws regarding safer construction and the operation of cars were strictly enforced.

But look at how democrats willfully ignore current gun laws:

2/4/11 http://www.minnpost.com/community-voices/2011/02/first-order-business-enforce-existing-federal-gun-lawsAccording to U.S. Department of Justice data, only 2 percent of federal gun crimes were actually prosecuted, and 85 percent of those cases were crimes of possession. That means the people illegally selling or transporting guns are almost never being charged under the firearms statutes.

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Where do these people on here get the idea americans what to be disarmed? These stats from a survey say the opposite. Quit believing the media and political hype it is false and trying to convince you it is the peoples choice. America is not for the reduction of its right to own!

Nice facts to bad those that are anti gun will never admit it or believe it. But add these stats to yours and the truth is obvious!


Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?
________________________________________
Yes, it should
276,581(28%)

No, it should not
691,108(71%)

Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?
________________________________________
Yes, it should
220,496(22%)

No, it should not
753,821(77%)

If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?
________________________________________
Yes, he should
200,414(20%)

No, he should not
772,614(79%)

Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?
________________________________________
Yes, I agree
790,712(81%)

No, I don't agree
182,982(18%)

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Ford avoided bankruptcy but at who's expense?

Agent Oran

The unemployment rate in the United States reached a 26-year high of 9.7 percent in August 2009, and many economists expect it will continue to rise until it peaks above 10 percent in the first half of next year, Reuters reports.

Meanwhile, positive hiring news came last week from General Motors Co., which announced on Tuesday that it plans to recall 2,400 factory workers to plants in Michigan, Indiana and Kansas, adding additional shifts to the facilities to keep them operating around the clock to meet increased demand for certain vehicles, the New York Times reports. About a month ago, GM said it would rehire 1,350 laid-off factory workers in Ohio and Ontario as it began to increase production after a year of drastic cuts; those workers are scheduled to report in October.

Ford Forecasts 2011 Profitability
In a press conference in New Delhi, India, last week, Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally said he expected his company to return to profitability in 2011, predicting U.S. sales will reach 10.5 to 11 million units in 2009, 12.5 million in 2010 and 14.5 million in 2011, Agence France-Presse reports.

According to Mulally, the outcome of this rate of sales coupled with "[t]he guidance we have given overall â because we continue to invest in new products â is that we will be profitable in 2011."

Ford, the only major U.S. automaker to have avoided bankruptcy, has gone through three consecutive years of annual losses totaling $30 billion, with a $1.4 billion decline in the first quarter of 2009 alone, AFP reports.

Much of the company's planned turnaround depends on expanding its presence in Asian markets. According to CNN Money, Ford is investing $500 million in its Indian manufacturing plant to expand production to 200,000 units per year, with a special focus on the new Figo model designed for the Asian small-car market. Ford has similar plans for expansion in China, preparing to construct a new factory in southern China for the production of high-end sedans and sport-utility vehicles at a volume of 300,000 units annually, Bloomberg News reports.
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I know GM has foreign plants, in fact they are closing the Lorain, Ohio plant and moving it to Mexico to build a new motor.

What are these companies doing to help the American worker?
Would you consider them to be un-patriotic?

It seems to me that to keep them here we would have to work for peanuts. Isn't there a better way?
T. Rex, "to keep them here".
I know pays cuts are necessary but it seems that manufacturing jobs are going to people who make that in a day, if they're lucky.

Obviously no one has a better answer, you just want to make Dems look stupid.

I'm not worried about that, you've cornered the market.

The manufacturing overseas is profitable until the workers there start demanding an increase in pay.
Just like Japan.

It 'seems to me (again) that these corporations will continue to seek out the most destitute in order to preserve profits. Where does that leaves us?
I'm thinking socialism.
The last GM I bought the motor cracked at about 15,000 miles.
I had an extended warranty so they fixed it.
It happened again within three months, they didn't want to pay for it until I threatened to take them to court.
Great customer service.
Glad your Ford isn't a lemon, yet.

Just looking for reasonable ideas, not a conversation with a table.

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Ford is paying attentio to where people are buying cars. Dosen't it make sense to start developing their presence in India and China - which are likely to turn into larger car markets than the US?

BTW - do you really think that we have seen the last of the GM bailouts?

Which is higher - # of gun deaths in the US last year, or people killed in auto accidents over the last year?

Q. Hint - it's not even close. By that account should we not get rid of evil cars? Would be great for saving the earth too. Two can play this game

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Save your breath trying to reason with democrats. Common sense tells everyone but liberals and democrats that ALL human predators dearly hope their targets are unarmed, whether the predator is a home invader, Stalin or Hitler:
-Thomas Jefferson, "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776: ââLaws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Even pacifists like Mahatma Gandhi "got it," saying: "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." An Autobiography, pg 446.

But liberals and democrats always religiously cling to their dogmatic faith that âmore guns leads to more crimeâ no matter how much evidence you shove in their face, including:

-9/27/01 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/156671⦠are deeply rooted within Swiss culture but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept"; âIn addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons.â

-1/15/03 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/26568⦠BBC: "âIf guns are outlawed only outlaws will have gunsâ" may prove prophetic. Gun crime in the UK is soaring even though it has the strictest gun control laws of any democracy.â
Nine years later: 12/17/12 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-⦠UKâs violent crime rate per 100,000 people is 2,034; USâs is 466.

-2/2/11 Daily Telegraph, about piracy: âThe safest ships of all [sailing in the Gulf of Aden] are flying the Russian flag: armed guards aboard them simply blow pirate boats out of the water and leave any survivors to drown. Attacks on Russian vessels have abruptly ceased.â

-7/25/12 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-⦠1950 all but one mass-murders in the U. S. where more than three people died were committed in gun-free zones. The Gun-Free Schools Zone Act was passed in 1990.

-9/25/12 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-â¦
âBut almost 30 years after the law [which mandates that all households own at least one firearm for self-protection] was passed, it is still in place and still popular, not least because Kennesawâs crime rate has remained disproportionately low, even as the townâs population swelled from 5,000 in 1982 to almost 35,000 now. According to the latest FBI statistics, Kennesaw recorded 31 violent crimes â mainly robberies and aggravated assaults â during 2008. In other similar-sized local towns the figures were much higher â 127 in Dalton and 188 in Hinesville. For property crimes â largely burglaries and thefts â Kennesaw recorded 555 while Dalton had 1,124 and Hinesville 1,802.â

-11/23/12 http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/⦠2006-2011 gun purchases in Virginia increased 73%. During the same period gun-related crimes fell 24%.

-1/6/13 http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/20â¦According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, the firearm crime rate dropped from 6 victims per 1,000 residents in 1994 to 1.4 victims per 1,000 residents in 2009. This has occurred as more and more citizens have armed themselves under right-to-carry State laws. While major crimes show continuing decline in those States, this phenomenon parallels a major crime rise in heavily gun-controlled cities.

-U. S. Department of Justice http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf: 3.7 million household burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007; a household member was present in roughly 1 million burglaries and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries. [meaning the police didnât show up in time]
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As to the democrat mantra, âCall 911â:

-In Warren v. District of Columbia (1981), the D.C. Court of Appeals ruled, âpolice personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for failure to provide adequate police protection . . . . [A] government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular citizen.â In Bowers v. DeVito (1982), the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled âTHERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED BY THE STATE AGAINST BEING MURDERED BY A CRIMINALS OR MADMEN.â

-âWhen seconds count, the police are only minutes awayâ

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Which is higher - # of gun deaths in the US last year, or people killed in auto accidents over the last year?

Q. Hint - it's not even close. By that account should we not get rid of evil cars? Would be great for saving the earth too. Two can play this game

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Save your breath trying to reason with democrats. Common sense tells everyone but liberals and democrats that ALL human predators dearly hope their targets are unarmed, whether the predator is a home invader, Stalin or Hitler:
-Thomas Jefferson, "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776: ââLaws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Even pacifists like Mahatma Gandhi "got it," saying: "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." An Autobiography, pg 446.

But liberals and democrats always religiously cling to their dogmatic faith that âmore guns leads to more crimeâ no matter how much evidence you shove in their face, including:

-9/27/01 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/156671⦠are deeply rooted within Swiss culture but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept"; âIn addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons.â

-1/15/03 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/26568⦠BBC: "âIf guns are outlawed only outlaws will have gunsâ" may prove prophetic. Gun crime in the UK is soaring even though it has the strictest gun control laws of any democracy.â
Nine years later: 12/17/12 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-⦠UKâs violent crime rate per 100,000 people is 2,034; USâs is 466.

-2/2/11 Daily Telegraph, about piracy: âThe safest ships of all [sailing in the Gulf of Aden] are flying the Russian flag: armed guards aboard them simply blow pirate boats out of the water and leave any survivors to drown. Attacks on Russian vessels have abruptly ceased.â

-7/25/12 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-⦠1950 all but one mass-murders in the U. S. where more than three people died were committed in gun-free zones. The Gun-Free Schools Zone Act was passed in 1990.

-9/25/12 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-â¦
âBut almost 30 years after the law [which mandates that all households own at least one firearm for self-protection] was passed, it is still in place and still popular, not least because Kennesawâs crime rate has remained disproportionately low, even as the townâs population swelled from 5,000 in 1982 to almost 35,000 now. According to the latest FBI statistics, Kennesaw recorded 31 violent crimes â mainly robberies and aggravated assaults â during 2008. In other similar-sized local towns the figures were much higher â 127 in Dalton and 188 in Hinesville. For property crimes â largely burglaries and thefts â Kennesaw recorded 555 while Dalton had 1,124 and Hinesville 1,802.â

-11/23/12 http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/⦠2006-2011 gun purchases in Virginia increased 73%. During the same period gun-related crimes fell 24%.

-1/6/13 http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/20â¦According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, the firearm crime rate dropped from 6 victims per 1,000 residents in 1994 to 1.4 victims per 1,000 residents in 2009. This has occurred as more and more citizens have armed themselves under right-to-carry State laws. While major crimes show continuing decline in those States, this phenomenon parallels a major crime rise in heavily gun-controlled cities.

-U. S. Department of Justice http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf: 3.7 million household burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007; a household member was present in roughly 1 million burglaries and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries. [meaning the police didnât show up in time]
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As to the democrat mantra, âCall 911â:

-In Warren v. District of Columbia (1981), the D.C. Court of Appeals ruled, âpolice personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for failure to provide adequate police protection . . . . [A] government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular citizen.â In Bowers v. DeVito (1982), the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled âTHERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED BY THE STATE AGAINST BEING MURDERED BY A CRIMINALS OR MADMEN.â

-âWhen seconds count, the police are only minutes awayâ

does a tsunami retreat back into the ocean?

Every Whit

how do people in tsunamis get "swept out to sea"?
does the tsunami just flood the land, and push all the debris inland?

or does it reach a certain point and then start retreating back the ocean?
if thats the case, is the current stronger going one way or the other?

if you found yourself in a tsunami, what would be your best ways to survive, and what would be the worse mistakes to make?

on videos on youtube, why does the 2011 Japan Tsunami look so much more destructive than the Dec 26 2004 Tsunamis in Indonesia? didn't like 10 times as many people die from the 2004 tsunami.?..the japan footage looks so much more large scale in camparison, with entire urbanized cities being engulfed and submerged in minutes

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OK I will answer your questions respectively.

People in tsunamis get swept out to sea just like any regular wave that comes, and sweep your belongings on the beach into the sea. The water comes onto the land and push all the debris inland, but then things must go back to order. All that water inland cannot just stay there. The water retreat because the ocean is at the lowest point of the land. Many people get caught in that current of the water retreating, especially so because many are caught in the debris (wood, metal, cars) that are also being pulled back into sea.

I cannot tell you which current is stronger, going inland or outland, but they are both of massive force if they can sweep buildings and cars. Many of the dead are also usually children and the elderly. Some who survive cling on trees or roofs.

The best way is not to be one at all. Once there is an earthquake, I would go as far inland as I could and get to higher ground. Some people go into stronger buildings, stay higher, and never be caught inside your car. The wave will sweep your car and you will be trapped.

Finally on the videos, I do not have statistics on which Tsunami is more powerful, but there are also videos that show the 2004 tsunami is as powerful as the Japan tsunami. You may not have as many videos, because the 2004 Tsunami happened in a third-world region, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Thailand, India. The 2011 Tsunami happened in a first-world country, where every person carries a smart phone that has a camera, and Japan is highly technological country, you are bound to have every building equipped with security cameras that can capture the tsunami.

You don't see the tsunami in Aceh , Indonesia, because there are very few footage, many people are still in villages. These villages are entirely engulfed and also submerged, but you don't have pictures nor as many videos. The ones out in youtube are scarce, and are mainly from Thailand (due to foreign tourists having videocameras) and may not show the entire story. You won't see footage from a helicopter like the one in Japan. Japan is a major financial center, and Tokyo is home to media headquarters of CNN Tokyo, NBC News, etc. Indonesia is not home to any of these media headquarters.

Finally, many more people die because Indonesia again is a third world country, ill equipped to deal with a disaster, also ill equipped to deal with the aftermath of a disaster. Japan is very well prepared for Earthquake and their emergency response are one of the best, even compared to the US. You may think that Japan was ill equipped to deal with the nuclear plant meltdown, and tsunami, but if you compare the death toll, Japan was barely scratched. Besides the buildings that were swept by tsunami, barely any buildings are damaged by the earthquake itself, due to building codes and standards for earthquake zones, something that has never been enforced in Indonesia.

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Isn't this how Muslim extremists start the 90% of the civil wars they are involved in?

car news 2011 india image

holeymoley

5/1/13 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-01/six-men-admit-plot-to-bomb-right-wing-rally/4662776

Six British men have pleaded guilty to a potentially deadly bomb plot that targeted a public rally of a prominent right-wing group.

One of the men was under police surveillance, but the plot only came to light after the would-be terrorists' car was stopped in a random traffic check.

In June last year, the English Defence League was holding one of its regular rallies, railing against the dangers it says are posed by Islam.

Five men from the West Midlands packed the boot of their car with a small arsenal of weapons: a homemade bomb containing hundreds of nails and ballbearings, sawn-off shotguns, knives and swords.

The men and a sixth accomplice had also prepared a long letter outlining their motivation.

The document referred to the Queen as a "female devil" who was fooling a nation of "blind sheep".

The English Defence League (EDL) was referred to as the "English Drunkards League".

"O enemies of Allah," the letter said, "we have heard and seen you openly insulting the final Messenger of Allah."

The penalty for this, the letter said, was death.
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Then our extremists blow some Muslims up and civil war begins.

-Bing/Google search âcivil wars in the worldâ and determine where they are being fought; then research each civil war and determine who is fighting in them. The results are startling: 90% of them involve one combatant-religion -- Islam. Muslims extremists fight in civil wars against Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Shamans, Copts, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Christiana, animists and Confucians and all other non-Muslim entities. They fight in China, Russia, Bosnia, Cyprus, Macedonia, Israel, Pakistan, India, Indonesia-Ambon & Halmarhera, Côte d'Ivoire, Kashmir, Algeria, Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Kurdistan, Kirghizia, Nigeria, Philippines, Somalia, Turkey, Chechnya, Sudan, Yemen, Thailand, Uganda, Azerbaijan, Mali, Chad, Libya, Bangladesh and East Timor.

-2011 FBI Annual Report on Terrorism, http://www.nctc.gov/docs/2011_NCTC_Annual_Report_Final.pdf, page 11: Of 12,533 terrorist deaths 77 were committed by Neo-Nazi, fascist or white supremacists; Muslims committed 8,886.

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What is so ironic with Britain is it's losing ground with Islam, and there are some high up politicians there that fear Britain could be controlled by Islam in the next decade or two because of the Muslim growth that is happening over there. That is scary stuff coming from a politician, but I am not to surprised about the comment because Canada and the U.S. are following Britain's path and politicians are blind to the Islamic threat to the western world in my opinion.

Which is higher - # of gun deaths in the US last year, or people killed in auto accidents over the last year?

Bev

Hint - it's not even close. By that account should we not get rid of evil cars? Would be great for saving the earth too. Two can play this game

Answer
Save your breath trying to reason with democrats. Common sense tells everyone but liberals and democrats that ALL human predators dearly hope their targets are unarmed, whether the predator is a home invader, Stalin or Hitler:
-Thomas Jefferson, "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776: ââLaws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Even pacifists like Mahatma Gandhi "got it," saying: "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." An Autobiography, pg 446.

But liberals and democrats always religiously cling to their dogmatic faith that âmore guns leads to more crimeâ no matter how much evidence you shove in their face, including:

-9/27/01 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/156671⦠are deeply rooted within Swiss culture but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept"; âIn addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons.â

-1/15/03 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/26568⦠BBC: "âIf guns are outlawed only outlaws will have gunsâ" may prove prophetic. Gun crime in the UK is soaring even though it has the strictest gun control laws of any democracy.â
Nine years later: 12/17/12 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-⦠UKâs violent crime rate per 100,000 people is 2,034; USâs is 466.

-2/2/11 Daily Telegraph, about piracy: âThe safest ships of all [sailing in the Gulf of Aden] are flying the Russian flag: armed guards aboard them simply blow pirate boats out of the water and leave any survivors to drown. Attacks on Russian vessels have abruptly ceased.â

-7/25/12 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-⦠1950 all but one mass-murders in the U. S. where more than three people died were committed in gun-free zones. The Gun-Free Schools Zone Act was passed in 1990.

-9/25/12 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-â¦
âBut almost 30 years after the law [which mandates that all households own at least one firearm for self-protection] was passed, it is still in place and still popular, not least because Kennesawâs crime rate has remained disproportionately low, even as the townâs population swelled from 5,000 in 1982 to almost 35,000 now. According to the latest FBI statistics, Kennesaw recorded 31 violent crimes â mainly robberies and aggravated assaults â during 2008. In other similar-sized local towns the figures were much higher â 127 in Dalton and 188 in Hinesville. For property crimes â largely burglaries and thefts â Kennesaw recorded 555 while Dalton had 1,124 and Hinesville 1,802.â

-11/23/12 http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/⦠2006-2011 gun purchases in Virginia increased 73%. During the same period gun-related crimes fell 24%.

-1/6/13 http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/20â¦According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, the firearm crime rate dropped from 6 victims per 1,000 residents in 1994 to 1.4 victims per 1,000 residents in 2009. This has occurred as more and more citizens have armed themselves under right-to-carry State laws. While major crimes show continuing decline in those States, this phenomenon parallels a major crime rise in heavily gun-controlled cities.

-U. S. Department of Justice http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf: 3.7 million household burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007; a household member was present in roughly 1 million burglaries and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries. [meaning the police didnât show up in time]
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As to the democrat mantra, âCall 911â:

-In Warren v. District of Columbia (1981), the D.C. Court of Appeals ruled, âpolice personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for failure to provide adequate police protection . . . . [A] government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular citizen.â In Bowers v. DeVito (1982), the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled âTHERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED BY THE STATE AGAINST BEING MURDERED BY A CRIMINALS OR MADMEN.â

-âWhen seconds count, the police are only minutes awayâ

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Are democrats proving themselves to be unthinking drones when they ignore facts like this?

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Common sense tells everyone but liberals and democrats that ALL human predators dearly hope their targets are unarmed, whether the predator is a home invader, Stalin or Hitler:
-Thomas Jefferson, "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776: ââLaws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

Even pacifists like Mahatma Gandhi "got it," saying: "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." An Autobiography, pg 446.

But liberals and democrats always religiously cling to their dogmatic faith that âmore guns leads to more crimeâ no matter how much evidence you shove in their face, including:

-9/27/01 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/156671⦠are deeply rooted within Swiss culture but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept"; âIn addition to the government-provided arms, there are few restrictions on buying weapons.â

-1/15/03 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/26568⦠BBC: "âIf guns are outlawed only outlaws will have gunsâ" may prove prophetic. Gun crime in the UK is soaring even though it has the strictest gun control laws of any democracy.â
Nine years later: 12/17/12 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-⦠UKâs violent crime rate per 100,000 people is 2,034; USâs is 466.

-2/2/11 Daily Telegraph, about piracy: âThe safest ships of all [sailing in the Gulf of Aden] are flying the Russian flag: armed guards aboard them simply blow pirate boats out of the water and leave any survivors to drown. Attacks on Russian vessels have abruptly ceased.â

-7/25/12 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-⦠1950 all but one mass-murders in the U. S. where more than three people died were committed in gun-free zones. The Gun-Free Schools Zone Act was passed in 1990.

-9/25/12 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-â¦
âBut almost 30 years after the law [which mandates that all households own at least one firearm for self-protection] was passed, it is still in place and still popular, not least because Kennesawâs crime rate has remained disproportionately low, even as the townâs population swelled from 5,000 in 1982 to almost 35,000 now. According to the latest FBI statistics, Kennesaw recorded 31 violent crimes â mainly robberies and aggravated assaults â during 2008. In other similar-sized local towns the figures were much higher â 127 in Dalton and 188 in Hinesville. For property crimes â largely burglaries and thefts â Kennesaw recorded 555 while Dalton had 1,124 and Hinesville 1,802.â

-11/23/12 http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/local/⦠2006-2011 gun purchases in Virginia increased 73%. During the same period gun-related crimes fell 24%.

-1/6/13 http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/20â¦According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, the firearm crime rate dropped from 6 victims per 1,000 residents in 1994 to 1.4 victims per 1,000 residents in 2009. This has occurred as more and more citizens have armed themselves under right-to-carry State laws. While major crimes show continuing decline in those States, this phenomenon parallels a major crime rise in heavily gun-controlled cities.

-In 1950 there were 40 million cars in the USA. In 2009 there were 260 million, over six times more. And yet car deaths are the lowest since 1950: 9/9/10 http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/09/autos/nhtsa_traffic_deaths/index.htm: NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Traffic deaths have hit their lowest level since 1950, the year fatalities behind the wheel began to be tracked, according to the latest government statistics.

The reason for the decline is obvious to all sentient Americans: laws regarding safer construction and the operation of cars were strictly enforced.

But look at how democrats willfully ignore current gun laws:

2/4/11 http://www.minnpost.com/community-voices/2011/02/first-order-business-enforce-existing-federal-gun-lawsAccording to U.S. Department of Justice data, only 2 percent of federal gun crimes were actually prosecuted, and 85 percent of those cases were crimes of possession. That means the people illegally selling or transporting guns are almost never being charged under the firearms statutes.

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Where do these people on here get the idea americans what to be disarmed? These stats from a survey say the opposite. Quit believing the media and political hype it is false and trying to convince you it is the peoples choice. America is not for the reduction of its right to own!

Nice facts to bad those that are anti gun will never admit it or believe it. But add these stats to yours and the truth is obvious!


Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?
________________________________________
Yes, it should
276,581(28%)

No, it should not
691,108(71%)

Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?
________________________________________
Yes, it should
220,496(22%)

No, it should not
753,821(77%)

If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?
________________________________________
Yes, he should
200,414(20%)

No, he should not
772,614(79%)

Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?
________________________________________
Yes, I agree
790,712(81%)

No, I don't agree
182,982(18%)

Isn't this how Muslim extremists start the 90% of the civil wars they are involved in?

holeymoley

5/1/13 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-01/six-men-admit-plot-to-bomb-right-wing-rally/4662776

Six British men have pleaded guilty to a potentially deadly bomb plot that targeted a public rally of a prominent right-wing group.

One of the men was under police surveillance, but the plot only came to light after the would-be terrorists' car was stopped in a random traffic check.

In June last year, the English Defence League was holding one of its regular rallies, railing against the dangers it says are posed by Islam.

Five men from the West Midlands packed the boot of their car with a small arsenal of weapons: a homemade bomb containing hundreds of nails and ballbearings, sawn-off shotguns, knives and swords.

The men and a sixth accomplice had also prepared a long letter outlining their motivation.

The document referred to the Queen as a "female devil" who was fooling a nation of "blind sheep".

The English Defence League (EDL) was referred to as the "English Drunkards League".

"O enemies of Allah," the letter said, "we have heard and seen you openly insulting the final Messenger of Allah."

The penalty for this, the letter said, was death.
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Then our extremists blow some Muslims up and civil war begins.

-Bing/Google search âcivil wars in the worldâ and determine where they are being fought; then research each civil war and determine who is fighting in them. The results are startling: 90% of them involve one combatant-religion -- Islam. Muslims extremists fight in civil wars against Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Shamans, Copts, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Christiana, animists and Confucians and all other non-Muslim entities. They fight in China, Russia, Bosnia, Cyprus, Macedonia, Israel, Pakistan, India, Indonesia-Ambon & Halmarhera, Côte d'Ivoire, Kashmir, Algeria, Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Kurdistan, Kirghizia, Nigeria, Philippines, Somalia, Turkey, Chechnya, Sudan, Yemen, Thailand, Uganda, Azerbaijan, Mali, Chad, Libya, Bangladesh and East Timor.

-2011 FBI Annual Report on Terrorism, http://www.nctc.gov/docs/2011_NCTC_Annual_Report_Final.pdf, page 11: Of 12,533 terrorist deaths 77 were committed by Neo-Nazi, fascist or white supremacists; Muslims committed 8,886.

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What is so ironic with Britain is it's losing ground with Islam, and there are some high up politicians there that fear Britain could be controlled by Islam in the next decade or two because of the Muslim growth that is happening over there. That is scary stuff coming from a politician, but I am not to surprised about the comment because Canada and the U.S. are following Britain's path and politicians are blind to the Islamic threat to the western world in my opinion.

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What jobs prevent American-Chinese Men from climbing the mobility ladder?

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Q. Because of the persistent ethnocentric nature of culture in these career tracks in America, there is an artificial barrier presented to American-Chinese Men. The White ethnocentric natures of people in Law, Business Administration, Construction, Big Four Accounting Firms prevent the inclusion and mobility of American-Chinese Men in these same professions. The only way American-Chinese Men to climb the ladder in these areas are to establish their own businesses as entrepreneurs. Other professions do not have this artificial racist barrier which include: medicine, engineering, architecture, computer engineering, technology, fashion, dance, art, dentistry. The common element is if the job requires speaking english in social settings, in running meetings, in public speaking, in controlling the executive suite, then white ethnocentric people makes certain the top circle is never penetrated by a yellow one. Shields are puts up to prevent American Chinese Men from entering these realms,not because they are not qualified, but because whites don't want to mingle with yellow ethnics in business parties and other social settings. This does not apply to pretty white women or pretty American-Chinese women. Why you may ask? Because both of these types of women is welcome for the same reason, eye candy helps moral in the office and also poses opportunities for fantasy and sex-episodes with them. The typical white ethnic male is groomed to recognize such opportunities with their job and position.

I am not complaining, nor am I jealous. I am merely stating my life long observations and want to help the up and coming young people. First you have to know how the battlefield of the work life is first, and then you are armed to penetrate it with a strategy. Good luck young folks, the yellow kind in America. Hope my post helps.

For me, I am a successful entrepreneur who live in both USA and China.

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If I convert to the Islam, would I belong To Shites or Sunnis?

Jose

Is very confusing brother.

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What, you feel like being a primitive warrior?

-The United Nationâs Human Development Index ranks nations by life expectancy, literacy, education and GDP per capita. The top 50 encompass 700 million in Judao-Christian nations; Muslim nations encompass 5 million people (out of 1.5 billion Muslims).
-The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates that the annual worldwide number of so-called âhonour killingâ victims may 5,000.
-Nobel Prizes in science awarded to America in last 50 years? 171. ALL Muslim nations? 3.
-Number of universities in US and UK? 3,600. ALL Muslim nations? 600 (for 1.5 billion people).
-The UN's Arab Development Report on books translated per million people: Hungary 519; Spain 920; Israel 380; Arabia 4.
-Tunis based Arab League Report: 76% of Arabs, ages 15 to 45, are illiterate.
-Patents are evidence of a nationâs creative activities: new drugs, electronics, satellites, the internet, food processing, cars, planes -- everything we need to live better lives: Total patents held, worldwide, 3.8 million; US holds 2.1 million; ALL Muslim nations hold only 1,000.
-The Freedom House (founded by Eleanor Roosevelt after WW2), rates the degree of freedom in all regions of the world. Its 2011 report rated the Middle East and North Africa 78% not free.
-On 9/11 only 9% of the world was on the internet. Today its 25%. The top 20 user-nations include 1.3 BILLION non-Muslims versus a mere 50 million Muslims. (internetworldstats.com)
-Google search on âcivil wars in the world.â Research each individual civil war and you will find one common combatant in 90% of them: Muslim extremists. Muslims are involved in civil wars in China, Russia, Bosnia, Cyprus, Macedonia, Israel, Pakistan, India, Indonesia-Ambon & Halmarhera, Côte d'Ivoire, Kashmir, Kosovo, Kurdistan, Kirghizia, Nigeria, Philippines, Somalia, Turkey, Chechnya, Sudan, Yemen, Thailand, Uganda, Azerbaijan and East Timor. Muslims fight against Zoroastrians, Copts, Hindus, Jews, Christians, animists, communists, Buddhists, Sikhs â against all non-Muslim nations and cultures.
-8/09 Bosnia Muslim leader Mustafa Ceric declared Christian Serbian Muslim-majority territory boarding Montenegro as Muslim homelands. The same Muslims we saved from ethnic cleansing by bombing Christian Serbs in the 90's are now claiming more Serbian land.
-8/23/09 BBC Thailand: In a pre-dawn raid Muslims killed two Thai policemen today and fled in trucks. Muslims shoot, behead and blow up local Buddhists to force them to flee Southern Thailand in order to establish a separate Islamic state.
-3/13/10 AsiaNews Cairo: The toll from an attack on the Coptic Christian community that took place yesterday in the north-western province of Mersa Matrouh, Egypt is 25 wounded, including women and children. A crowd of around 3 thousand Muslims attacked the faithful gathered in prayer in a building adjoining the local church. The fundamentalists fury, encouraged by the imam, was sparked by the rumour that the Christians have begun to build a new place of worship.
-8/20/10 AsiaNews, Kashmir: Extremist Muslims are demanding Sikhs convert or leave.
-8/23/10 Reuters: Since 2004 Muslim extremists have killed 4,000 Buddhists in southern Thailand, which they are claiming as Muslim homelands.
-1/25/10 Netherlands, telegraff.nl: The mayor is getting police protection, shop-keepers don't dare open up for late shopping nights and residents get stones through their windows or threats. Zaltbommel, with 12,000 residents, is sick and tired of harassment by [Musim] Moroccan youth, reports AD today.
-10/4/11 AFP news, Philippines: âThe government had previously warned that Umbrakato posed a serious threat to efforts aimed at ending a Muslim insurgency that has left an estimated 150,000 people dead over more than four decades.â
-1/3/12 Reuters, China: â[Muslim] Uighurs in Xinjiang rioted against Han Chinese residents in 2009 and at least 197 people were killed, according to official estimates.â

Or maybe you want some women to rule over -- you know, feel macho and stuff?
-Hadis number 789, volume 2, p.114: âAn ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian and a woman annuls a prayer.â
-Tabari I:280: âBecause Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.â
-The UNâs Gender Empowerment Measure ranks nations by womenâs equality: Muslim nations rank at the bottom.

I wager you're an Occupy Wall Street type.

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