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I just recently saw a clip on foxnews.com titled Flying Cars a Reality? And I thought that flying cars is the dumbest idea I've EVER heard!
If you ask me, I don't want to make lanes and freeways in the sky and I don't want cars crashing down on my house! What about traffic jams? I'd hate to have a flying car over my car and suddenly it runs of of fuel and smushes on me!
Opinions, please. Feel free to try and find the clip or use google.
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they were talking about flying cars 10 years ago and 20 years ago and 30 and 40 and 50 and 60 and 70 and 80 and 90 years ago right after the invention of the car and plane but we have yet to see any that the majority of drivers could afford,
Inventors are sure cars can fly
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A Terrafugia Transition flying car on display July 28 at an airshow in Oshkosh, Wis., with its wings in a half-folded position. Its projected price is $194,000.
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LOS ANGELES â The auto industry has seen its share of technological leaps, whether it was the advent of electric starters, automatic transmissions or hybrid gas-electric powertrains. And don't forget hideaway headlights.
One leap that engineers and tinkerers have never quite made, however, but refuse to let die: the flying car.
PHOTO GALLERY: Those incredible flying and driving machines
Year after year a few more try. Of all those stuck stewing in traffic gridlock, who hasn't imagined soaring Jetsons-style directly to a destination?
Most flying cars never get off the page, let alone the ground. The few that do are bedeviled by lack of funding, impracticality, limited appeal or fears they may simply break apart in flight â as some have.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: North Carolina | Hollywood | Toronto | Los Angeles | Harrison Ford | Ridley Scott | Blade Runner | Clouds | Woburn | Ford Pinto | Galpin Motors | Jake Schultz | M400 Skycar
The fact is that these keystones of modern transportation â cars and planes â have basic differences that make them a match made in hell.
"It's like trying to mate a pig and an elephant," says Lionel Salisbury, editor of the Roadable Times, a website that has made him a de facto chronicler of flying car attempts. "You don't get a very good elephant, or a very good pig."
Today, a new crop of magnificent men and women believe advanced materials and sounder business practices finally will allow their flying machines to defy skeptics.
They range from a guy who just built a prototype three-wheel flying motorcycle in the driveway of his Los Angeles home to a Woburn, Mass., company with more than 50 orders for a two-seat car that flies. Some designs call for wings that telescope. Some fold, manually or at the push of a button.
No dreamers allowed. Only cold-eyed realists. Aware of how quickly they can be branded kooks, the new breed deliberately discourages the label "flying cars" and eschews Hollywood fantasies such as Harrison Ford cruising the skies of Los Angeles in Ridley Scott's 1982 Blade Runner.
Their preferred terminology is "roadable aircraft" â a plane you can drive to the airport, then sprout wings and fly off into the sunset. They see early adopters as private pilots.
"You get a lot of people who have the Jetsons dream of one of these things in everyone's driveway. Maybe that will happen someday, but it's not something you can build a business on now," says Carl Dietrich, CEO of Massachusetts-based Terrafugia.
The effort has been helped by innovations in cheap, lightweight engines and strong, light materials such as carbon-fiber composites. They could finally lead to an affordable vehicle equally at home on the interstate or the runway.
Today's group follows pioneers such as Paul Moller, who has pursued his vision of a flying car since 1970. He predicted to USA TODAY in 1994 that he would be mass producing his M400 Skycar by 2000 and selling it for as little as $30,000. His company is still alive â and he's still trying to start production.
Moller was far from the first. Salisbury, a former pilot living north of Toronto, says he's found records of attempts at a flying car formulated "within months of the Wright brothers." The first patent was issued 15 years later in 1918.
At least 100 serious tries followed. The original Aerocar of the 1950s was among the most successful, with five built, says Jake Schultz, author of A Drive in the Clouds â The Story of the Aerocar. It was a novel design: The wings detached to turn into a trailer towed behind the car. He says at least one is still flying and three are in museums.
Developed by private pilot Molt Taylor, the Aerocar was one of only two flying cars to be certified by the predecessor agency to the FAA. An aircraft company later known as Ling-Temco-Vought looked at the Aerocar, but didn't get enough orders to justify production. Ford Motor looked, too, but lost interest, so Taylor started building sport aircraft.
Salisbury says it was 1970s entrepreneur Henry Smolinski who developed a wing and engine to be hooked to the back of a Ford Pinto, a subcompact car in the era, with hopes of production.
"It was fun," says Bert Boeckmann, whose Galpin Motors in Los Angeles is the nation's largest Ford dealership. He took a test ride in the Flying Pinto to an altitude of about 10 feet.
But the operation "was kind of working on a shoestring" and didn't pay enough attention to safety. Smolinski and a colleague were killed in 1973 when a wing collapse led to a fiery crash.
"Henry said if he ever died, he would like to die in his Flying Pinto," Boeckmann recalls.
Such structural risks inevitably come into play as inventors try to make a car light enough to get off the ground.
"Weight is one of the problems," says Bob Blake, an auto historian in North Carolina. "You're trying to make something that's designed for the highway to go into the sky. Even now, with the lightweight composite materials, it's more of a novelty than something practical."
But the latest entrepreneurs believe otherwise and are convinced they can strike the balance. Drivable aircraft now being developed include:
Terrafugia Transition.
Dietrich says he thought most interest in his carbon-fiber craft would be from "wealthy playboy types. We have a couple of those but have a lot of retired couples who want to use it to fly around for fun."
He says his company has 10 employees and that he's been working on the Terrafugia Transition's design since 2004. Design goals include a range of 500 miles and conversion from car to plane or vice versa in about 15 seconds.
Dietrich says more than 50 have already been ordered. The first flight is planned by the end of the year, and he hopes deliveries can begin in 2010.
At a projected price of $194,000, the Transition "is not a replacement for a Honda," he says, Rather, it's meant to provide "a fundamental new freedom that has never existed in one package. And we know there is a market for it."
LaBiche FSC-1.
Mitch LaBiche believes he has the winning formula for his flying car: The wings extend from the car with the push of a button, instead of being bolted on or unfolded.
LaBiche Aerospace settled on the configuration after interviewing about 3,000 people to find out what they wanted in a car that could fly. "Most people most interested in flying cars were already pilots," LaBiche says. "They wanted to drive to a local airport, take off, land at their destination â and then reverse the whole process to come home."
He says, "People basically structure their lives around where they live and work. We are a car-based society, and 75% of our travel is less than 80 miles, so people want something that acts more like a car than a plane."
LaBiche is taking orders for the FSC-1 as a buildable kit costing $175,000. He hopes eventually to get the craft federally certified â an expensive proposition â so it can be sold as a fully-built unit.
"We want to show people what we can do," he says of his six-worker company. "Once we have enough of them out there, some history and some backing, we can go out and attract the $250 million we need."
Samson SkyBike.
Sam Bousfield came up with a futurist design for a three-wheeled flying motorcycle with wings that telescope so it won't be blown around on the highway.
Bousfield, whose Samson Motorworks is based near Sacramento, says engineering is underway and he hopes to have a half-scale, radio-controlled model flying in a few months.
He hopes to be able to produce a full-size kit version that could sell for about $50,000. At that price, "We feel we can sell at least 1,000 kits a year," he says.
Caravella CaraVellair.
After a decade working at Rocketdyne, a big aerospace company, Joseph Caravella had saved up more than $100,000 to be able to quit and pursue his dream: a flying three-wheel motorcycle.
The idea came to him after he got a speeding ticket driving from Indiana to Virginia while in college. He'd been clocked by an aircraft.
Caravella Aerospace's design calls for a lightweight single engine that powers both the motorcycle and a rear-mounted propeller from an enclosed cockpit. Aimed at commuters, he sees cost as a key advantage for the single-seat CaraVellair, as he's named it: He believes it can be produced as a kit for $50,000. He hopes to have a version flying by 2010.
Caravella spent months working in his garage and driveway with dad Joe Sr. to finish the non-flying prototype in time for EAA AirVenture Oshkosh aviation show earlier this month in Wisconsin. Terrafugia and Samson also were displayed at the show.
Moller Neuera.
While Moller's Skycar won attention, it has been grounded by cost. Moller International has moved to a less ambitious project designed to make sales, not just headlines.
Moller is working on a saucer-like, ground-effect vehicle. The M2
they were talking about flying cars 10 years ago and 20 years ago and 30 and 40 and 50 and 60 and 70 and 80 and 90 years ago right after the invention of the car and plane but we have yet to see any that the majority of drivers could afford,
Inventors are sure cars can fly
Updated 1d 19h ago | Comments78 | Recommend28 E-mail | Save | Print | Reprints & Permissions |
Enlarge By Tim Loehrke, USA TODAY
A Terrafugia Transition flying car on display July 28 at an airshow in Oshkosh, Wis., with its wings in a half-folded position. Its projected price is $194,000.
Yahoo! Buzz Digg Newsvine Reddit FacebookWhat's this?By Chris Woodyard and Sharon Silke Carty, USA TODAY
LOS ANGELES â The auto industry has seen its share of technological leaps, whether it was the advent of electric starters, automatic transmissions or hybrid gas-electric powertrains. And don't forget hideaway headlights.
One leap that engineers and tinkerers have never quite made, however, but refuse to let die: the flying car.
PHOTO GALLERY: Those incredible flying and driving machines
Year after year a few more try. Of all those stuck stewing in traffic gridlock, who hasn't imagined soaring Jetsons-style directly to a destination?
Most flying cars never get off the page, let alone the ground. The few that do are bedeviled by lack of funding, impracticality, limited appeal or fears they may simply break apart in flight â as some have.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: North Carolina | Hollywood | Toronto | Los Angeles | Harrison Ford | Ridley Scott | Blade Runner | Clouds | Woburn | Ford Pinto | Galpin Motors | Jake Schultz | M400 Skycar
The fact is that these keystones of modern transportation â cars and planes â have basic differences that make them a match made in hell.
"It's like trying to mate a pig and an elephant," says Lionel Salisbury, editor of the Roadable Times, a website that has made him a de facto chronicler of flying car attempts. "You don't get a very good elephant, or a very good pig."
Today, a new crop of magnificent men and women believe advanced materials and sounder business practices finally will allow their flying machines to defy skeptics.
They range from a guy who just built a prototype three-wheel flying motorcycle in the driveway of his Los Angeles home to a Woburn, Mass., company with more than 50 orders for a two-seat car that flies. Some designs call for wings that telescope. Some fold, manually or at the push of a button.
No dreamers allowed. Only cold-eyed realists. Aware of how quickly they can be branded kooks, the new breed deliberately discourages the label "flying cars" and eschews Hollywood fantasies such as Harrison Ford cruising the skies of Los Angeles in Ridley Scott's 1982 Blade Runner.
Their preferred terminology is "roadable aircraft" â a plane you can drive to the airport, then sprout wings and fly off into the sunset. They see early adopters as private pilots.
"You get a lot of people who have the Jetsons dream of one of these things in everyone's driveway. Maybe that will happen someday, but it's not something you can build a business on now," says Carl Dietrich, CEO of Massachusetts-based Terrafugia.
The effort has been helped by innovations in cheap, lightweight engines and strong, light materials such as carbon-fiber composites. They could finally lead to an affordable vehicle equally at home on the interstate or the runway.
Today's group follows pioneers such as Paul Moller, who has pursued his vision of a flying car since 1970. He predicted to USA TODAY in 1994 that he would be mass producing his M400 Skycar by 2000 and selling it for as little as $30,000. His company is still alive â and he's still trying to start production.
Moller was far from the first. Salisbury, a former pilot living north of Toronto, says he's found records of attempts at a flying car formulated "within months of the Wright brothers." The first patent was issued 15 years later in 1918.
At least 100 serious tries followed. The original Aerocar of the 1950s was among the most successful, with five built, says Jake Schultz, author of A Drive in the Clouds â The Story of the Aerocar. It was a novel design: The wings detached to turn into a trailer towed behind the car. He says at least one is still flying and three are in museums.
Developed by private pilot Molt Taylor, the Aerocar was one of only two flying cars to be certified by the predecessor agency to the FAA. An aircraft company later known as Ling-Temco-Vought looked at the Aerocar, but didn't get enough orders to justify production. Ford Motor looked, too, but lost interest, so Taylor started building sport aircraft.
Salisbury says it was 1970s entrepreneur Henry Smolinski who developed a wing and engine to be hooked to the back of a Ford Pinto, a subcompact car in the era, with hopes of production.
"It was fun," says Bert Boeckmann, whose Galpin Motors in Los Angeles is the nation's largest Ford dealership. He took a test ride in the Flying Pinto to an altitude of about 10 feet.
But the operation "was kind of working on a shoestring" and didn't pay enough attention to safety. Smolinski and a colleague were killed in 1973 when a wing collapse led to a fiery crash.
"Henry said if he ever died, he would like to die in his Flying Pinto," Boeckmann recalls.
Such structural risks inevitably come into play as inventors try to make a car light enough to get off the ground.
"Weight is one of the problems," says Bob Blake, an auto historian in North Carolina. "You're trying to make something that's designed for the highway to go into the sky. Even now, with the lightweight composite materials, it's more of a novelty than something practical."
But the latest entrepreneurs believe otherwise and are convinced they can strike the balance. Drivable aircraft now being developed include:
Terrafugia Transition.
Dietrich says he thought most interest in his carbon-fiber craft would be from "wealthy playboy types. We have a couple of those but have a lot of retired couples who want to use it to fly around for fun."
He says his company has 10 employees and that he's been working on the Terrafugia Transition's design since 2004. Design goals include a range of 500 miles and conversion from car to plane or vice versa in about 15 seconds.
Dietrich says more than 50 have already been ordered. The first flight is planned by the end of the year, and he hopes deliveries can begin in 2010.
At a projected price of $194,000, the Transition "is not a replacement for a Honda," he says, Rather, it's meant to provide "a fundamental new freedom that has never existed in one package. And we know there is a market for it."
LaBiche FSC-1.
Mitch LaBiche believes he has the winning formula for his flying car: The wings extend from the car with the push of a button, instead of being bolted on or unfolded.
LaBiche Aerospace settled on the configuration after interviewing about 3,000 people to find out what they wanted in a car that could fly. "Most people most interested in flying cars were already pilots," LaBiche says. "They wanted to drive to a local airport, take off, land at their destination â and then reverse the whole process to come home."
He says, "People basically structure their lives around where they live and work. We are a car-based society, and 75% of our travel is less than 80 miles, so people want something that acts more like a car than a plane."
LaBiche is taking orders for the FSC-1 as a buildable kit costing $175,000. He hopes eventually to get the craft federally certified â an expensive proposition â so it can be sold as a fully-built unit.
"We want to show people what we can do," he says of his six-worker company. "Once we have enough of them out there, some history and some backing, we can go out and attract the $250 million we need."
Samson SkyBike.
Sam Bousfield came up with a futurist design for a three-wheeled flying motorcycle with wings that telescope so it won't be blown around on the highway.
Bousfield, whose Samson Motorworks is based near Sacramento, says engineering is underway and he hopes to have a half-scale, radio-controlled model flying in a few months.
He hopes to be able to produce a full-size kit version that could sell for about $50,000. At that price, "We feel we can sell at least 1,000 kits a year," he says.
Caravella CaraVellair.
After a decade working at Rocketdyne, a big aerospace company, Joseph Caravella had saved up more than $100,000 to be able to quit and pursue his dream: a flying three-wheel motorcycle.
The idea came to him after he got a speeding ticket driving from Indiana to Virginia while in college. He'd been clocked by an aircraft.
Caravella Aerospace's design calls for a lightweight single engine that powers both the motorcycle and a rear-mounted propeller from an enclosed cockpit. Aimed at commuters, he sees cost as a key advantage for the single-seat CaraVellair, as he's named it: He believes it can be produced as a kit for $50,000. He hopes to have a version flying by 2010.
Caravella spent months working in his garage and driveway with dad Joe Sr. to finish the non-flying prototype in time for EAA AirVenture Oshkosh aviation show earlier this month in Wisconsin. Terrafugia and Samson also were displayed at the show.
Moller Neuera.
While Moller's Skycar won attention, it has been grounded by cost. Moller International has moved to a less ambitious project designed to make sales, not just headlines.
Moller is working on a saucer-like, ground-effect vehicle. The M2
do you think the vp has a big mouth or is just stupid?
Q. maybe he needs a teleprompter team like obma ?
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Oh, Joe. Again? Really?
According to Newsweek's Eleanor Clift, Vice President Biden's famously loose lips loosed top-secret info about the location of the VP's secret bunker. (Guess what? It's in the basement of his house.)
In March, Biden replaced President Obama as the main speaker at the annual dinner thrown by the Gridiron Club, an exclusive journalists' club. The swanky dinner is a chance for media types to rub shoulders with top politicians. But this year, Obama became the first president to send his regrets since Grover Cleveland in 1885.
According to Politico, Biden killed it, poking jokes at his boss and Calif. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's speech, saying he could "hardly wait for the English translation."
But during dinner, Biden â who's got his very own "Gaffe-o-meter" over at The New Republic â proved once again his terminal case of Foot-in-Mouth Disease. Clift blogged over the weekend that Biden told his dinner mates the location of the secret bunker, where former Vice President Dick Cheney is believed to have retreated after the September 11 attacks:
"... a young naval officer giving [Biden] a tour of the residence showed him the hideaway, which is behind a massive steel door secured by an elaborate lock with a narrow connecting hallway lined with shelves filled with communications equipment."
(Oops. Did I say that out loud?)
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Delicious Digg Facebook Fark Newsvine Reddit StumbleUpon Technorati Yahoo! Bookmarks Print Featured Topics: Barack Obama AP â Vice President Joe Biden addresses the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) â¦
Slideshow:Vice President Joseph Biden Play Video Video:Loose Lips FOX News More from The Yahoo! Newsroom:
Political Bites: Obama 'graduates,' Pelosi hides and Caroline speaks up The Starting Point: Lifted copy, house arrest and a big car sale Obama addresses abortion at Notre Dame Week of the weird The Starting Point: Murder in Mexico and a case about chemotherapy Supreme perks Reporter's cell phone confiscated ... by White House A closer look at Lt. Gen. McChrystal More »
2 hrs 19 mins ago
Oh, Joe. Again? Really?
According to Newsweek's Eleanor Clift, Vice President Biden's famously loose lips loosed top-secret info about the location of the VP's secret bunker. (Guess what? It's in the basement of his house.)
In March, Biden replaced President Obama as the main speaker at the annual dinner thrown by the Gridiron Club, an exclusive journalists' club. The swanky dinner is a chance for media types to rub shoulders with top politicians. But this year, Obama became the first president to send his regrets since Grover Cleveland in 1885.
According to Politico, Biden killed it, poking jokes at his boss and Calif. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's speech, saying he could "hardly wait for the English translation."
But during dinner, Biden â who's got his very own "Gaffe-o-meter" over at The New Republic â proved once again his terminal case of Foot-in-Mouth Disease. Clift blogged over the weekend that Biden told his dinner mates the location of the secret bunker, where former Vice President Dick Cheney is believed to have retreated after the September 11 attacks:
"... a young naval officer giving [Biden] a tour of the residence showed him the hideaway, which is behind a massive steel door secured by an elaborate lock with a narrow connecting hallway lined with shelves filled with communications equipment."
(Oops. Did I say that out loud?)
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Can't it be both??
Can't it be both??
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