Q. I could be going to Athens, Greece in February and I was curious on if I would get any service in the city.
I have a job that demands people getting a hold of me quite often through my phone. If I can't get AT&T service, how would I be able to get service at the city?
I have a job that demands people getting a hold of me quite often through my phone. If I can't get AT&T service, how would I be able to get service at the city?
Answer
You can...but there are certain problems with it...Here are a few problems:
No Micro-Sim in Greece
My first initiative was to inquire with all mobile phone providers about a micro-sim; as you know, with the iPhone 4, Apple introduced the Micro-Sim, which in theory contains the same information chip as the standard Sim Card, however the dimensions of the chip itself is reduced to about 15 mm x 12 mm. Itâs the same size as used in the iPad, however the iPad chip does not work due to different content and configuration.
No provider can provide a Micro-Sim in Greece. Consequently I chopped up a regular Sim to stuff it into the Phone ⦠and the experiment failed. 3 Days later I was in possession of an O2 Micro-Sim my friend Zo Nicholas had sent me from the UK and the device could finally be activated.
Roaming Cost in Greece
In spite the new European legislation trimming roaming cost across Europe I could not see any progress. After a few hours of testing features and links I was 20 Pounds down. Whatâs actually killing the interest is international data transfer. The next 20 Pounds held for roughly 24 hours whereas I was careful switching off data roaming after each targeted use.
A better experience resulted of course by using local WiFi and Hot spots.
Roaming Services in Greece
Most of the time I have been using Cosmote or Vodafone as local service providers. How surprised was I that it takes up to 24 hours for a sent email to reach the addressee! I donât actually know if this is inherent to low quality services here in Greece or if there is another cause, fact is, at this level mobile email is useless. Just for the record, I tested the email function in parallel from my desktop where it took just a few seconds to reach destination.
Connectivity â Antenna
While here in Vouliagmeni there is no connection problem as we are well exposed, my experience became a nightmare on Syros Island, the main island of the Cyclades. In the main town the reception was fine while just a few kilometers outside, the iPhone proved to be useless.
Apple discriminates Greece
The known antenna problem with the iPhone 4 triggered Apple to update the software and to launch the Free iPhone 4 Case Program. My experience shows that it is not just a matter of how the phone is held or whether it sticks in a case or not: the Apple iPhone 4 Antenna has an engineering problem and any car constructor would have to recall itâs concerned production.
Second: while the free case program is provided through an App, that Application cannot be accessed through the Greek App Store! May be itâs just because the iPhone 4 is not yet available for sale in Greece? In any case: the iPhone is a device for mobile people and the features allow to communicate from anywhere with anyone: why should apple not change itâs attitude to global and provide the same degree of service to all customers, irrespective where they live?
In the case of the case program itâs just a matter of a link and at least 1 case to be shipped to Greece â I am waiting for it :-).
By the way: I went to Apple support online to draw their attention to the iPhone 4 problems existing in Greece. No reaction so far, which is understandable considering the masses of complaints they get from their main markets.
A Positive Note
The iPhone 4 is a great step ahead in many respects and while not an Apple fan, I must admit: I love this device. It shoots nice clips and pictures, lets you organize your contacts, has a brilliant display screen, allows for multitasking, it can mow your lawn, you water-ski on it or you surf the wave at the beach, it gives you a shave in the morning, it pays your bills at the taverna, it plays a Serenade under the balcony of your sweatheart, it fixes your computer and repairs your car, it can even take you to the Moon and the stars â¦
⦠but itâs useless as a Phone, at least when you are island hopping in Greece.
_Hope this info helps!! =)
You can...but there are certain problems with it...Here are a few problems:
No Micro-Sim in Greece
My first initiative was to inquire with all mobile phone providers about a micro-sim; as you know, with the iPhone 4, Apple introduced the Micro-Sim, which in theory contains the same information chip as the standard Sim Card, however the dimensions of the chip itself is reduced to about 15 mm x 12 mm. Itâs the same size as used in the iPad, however the iPad chip does not work due to different content and configuration.
No provider can provide a Micro-Sim in Greece. Consequently I chopped up a regular Sim to stuff it into the Phone ⦠and the experiment failed. 3 Days later I was in possession of an O2 Micro-Sim my friend Zo Nicholas had sent me from the UK and the device could finally be activated.
Roaming Cost in Greece
In spite the new European legislation trimming roaming cost across Europe I could not see any progress. After a few hours of testing features and links I was 20 Pounds down. Whatâs actually killing the interest is international data transfer. The next 20 Pounds held for roughly 24 hours whereas I was careful switching off data roaming after each targeted use.
A better experience resulted of course by using local WiFi and Hot spots.
Roaming Services in Greece
Most of the time I have been using Cosmote or Vodafone as local service providers. How surprised was I that it takes up to 24 hours for a sent email to reach the addressee! I donât actually know if this is inherent to low quality services here in Greece or if there is another cause, fact is, at this level mobile email is useless. Just for the record, I tested the email function in parallel from my desktop where it took just a few seconds to reach destination.
Connectivity â Antenna
While here in Vouliagmeni there is no connection problem as we are well exposed, my experience became a nightmare on Syros Island, the main island of the Cyclades. In the main town the reception was fine while just a few kilometers outside, the iPhone proved to be useless.
Apple discriminates Greece
The known antenna problem with the iPhone 4 triggered Apple to update the software and to launch the Free iPhone 4 Case Program. My experience shows that it is not just a matter of how the phone is held or whether it sticks in a case or not: the Apple iPhone 4 Antenna has an engineering problem and any car constructor would have to recall itâs concerned production.
Second: while the free case program is provided through an App, that Application cannot be accessed through the Greek App Store! May be itâs just because the iPhone 4 is not yet available for sale in Greece? In any case: the iPhone is a device for mobile people and the features allow to communicate from anywhere with anyone: why should apple not change itâs attitude to global and provide the same degree of service to all customers, irrespective where they live?
In the case of the case program itâs just a matter of a link and at least 1 case to be shipped to Greece â I am waiting for it :-).
By the way: I went to Apple support online to draw their attention to the iPhone 4 problems existing in Greece. No reaction so far, which is understandable considering the masses of complaints they get from their main markets.
A Positive Note
The iPhone 4 is a great step ahead in many respects and while not an Apple fan, I must admit: I love this device. It shoots nice clips and pictures, lets you organize your contacts, has a brilliant display screen, allows for multitasking, it can mow your lawn, you water-ski on it or you surf the wave at the beach, it gives you a shave in the morning, it pays your bills at the taverna, it plays a Serenade under the balcony of your sweatheart, it fixes your computer and repairs your car, it can even take you to the Moon and the stars â¦
⦠but itâs useless as a Phone, at least when you are island hopping in Greece.
_Hope this info helps!! =)
My iPhone 3G isn't upgrading correctly?
so i just upgraded it to the 3G S thing and it says i would have streaming video and stuff like that... like 30 mins later it finished and i dont have streaming video...
i have other features like the keyboard flip on SMS and a few other but not video!
help?
Answer
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the 3G S is the new iphone not the update, the video is on the new iphone, many of the features of the 3G S are on the new update, but video, voice controll, compass, are not. APPLE SOURCE, Cut, Copy & Paste
Quickly and easily cut, copy and paste text from application to application. Select entire blocks of web text with a tap. Copy and paste images from the web, too.
Landscape Keyboard
Want more room to type? Rotate iPhone to landscape to use a larger keyboard in Mail, Notes and Safari.
MMS
Send MMS messages and include video, photos, audio and contact info.2 Even tap to snap a picture or shoot a video right inside Messages.
Spotlight Search
Find what youâre looking for across your iPhone, all from one place. Spotlight searches all of your contacts, email, calendars and notes, as well as everything in your iPod.
Voice Memos
Capture a memo, a meeting or any audio recording on the go. Voice Memos works with the built-in iPhone microphone or with the mic on your headset.
Improved Calendar
Create meetings via Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and subscribe to calendars with new CalDAV support.
Buy Films, TV Programmes and Audiobooks
Download films, TV programmes, music videos and audiobooks from the iTunes Store on your iPhone.3
Enhanced Stocks App
Get more at-a-glance information and view charts in landscape.
Safari Improvements
Faster performance, autofill user names and passwords, and more.
Internet Tethering
Share your Internet connection with your laptop with Internet tethering via Bluetooth or USB.4
Stereo Bluetooth
Connect compatible Bluetooth stereo headphones, car kits or other accessories.
Automatic Wi-Fi Login
Log in to a Wi-Fi hotspot and iPhone automatically logs you in when you connect again.
Sync Notes
Never leave a note behind. Now you can sync all the notes you write on your iPhone back to your Mac or PC.
Parental Controls
Decide what music, videos and apps kids can access.
iTunes Store Account
Create and log in to one or more iTunes Store accounts directly from your iPhone.5
YouTube Login
Log in to your YouTube account to save and sync bookmarks and rate favourites.
Shake to Shuffle
Give iPhone a shake and it shuffles to a different song in your music library.
New Languages
iPhone supports 30 languages and more than 40 keyboard layouts.
MobileMe Find My iPhone and Remote Wipe
Find your iPhone if you lose it and protect your privacy with Remote Wipe.
Run the Latest Apps
Run the next generation of iPhone apps, like peer-to-peer games1 and more.
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